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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 27, 2008 3:43 pm

masterindisguise wrote:
try this www.aaooobfoods.com/bulkfoods.htm I was just looking around there again and they also have stuff to take in case of nuclear or "dirty" bomb exposure. They have storage containers for dry food and thingys you put in with the food to take out the oxygen so it will keep longer. It 's an interesting and "wild" site. Like something from T.V.

THIS WORKS
http://www.aaoobfoods.com/dflistlargecans.htm#top

YOU PUT IN THREE ooo's instead of TWO----no problema. Got it bookmarked. Wa do
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 27, 2008 4:38 pm

Glad you found it. i thought it was supposed t have 3 O's. guess not.
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 28, 2008 11:53 pm

Hello Littlefire,
You are correct in that all grains have/or are going up in price. Corn has gone up the most with the push on ethanol, the farmers now have a cash crop that will make them money. The sad part is that this push for alternative fuel is going to have a serious impact on the food industry as the price of corn will be driven by by the high price of fuel. I can see a shortage in food supply's around the world due to drought, or serious flooding conditions like we have seen this past year. All of my wife's family are farmers, and have seen the shift from soybeans to corn, as corn is the now the new cash crop. We have been stocking up on food and water not as a doom and gloom type of thing, but one of being prepaired for situations that may present greater obstacles in our everyday lives. Most people would not understand what it is really like to do without the basic essentuals unless they have been in a situation where life was very difficult without some of the very basic things that we take for granted. The question we have to ask ourselves is, what is the minimum that we have to have to sustain ourselves in our day to day living, and base your needs accordingly. Try to think of what you would do if for some reason you were cut off from your normal ways of obtaining food and good clean potable water, soap, the list can go on and on. Those of us that have lived through situations where there was no clean water available, know what it is like to struggle without the basic elements that we need to survive, and have the insite to be prepaired for future events. So I must end with this, do not wait for a major catastrophy to hit in order for you to stock up on the basic essentuals for your survival in whatever life decides to through your way.
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 8:21 am

Osiris I cannot seem to make people understand the point you just made about stocking up - that it is not a gloom and doom prospective, but a looking forward in time and acting with foresight to what appears to be inevitable. I have been called paranoid, but the sad fact is that I lived through a major weather catastrophe and I know what it is like to not have water, food or the basic essentials available. It is not pleasant.

I have to add that we should all have rubber gloves, masks, sanitizer, soaps, medical supplies and things of this nature to prevent or treat infections. The contamination was so severe after that storm that people were getting very ill with respiratory infections, skin infections, and every ailment under the sun.

There were no grocery, drug or health food stores open for over three months. It was not easy to drive out of the area because the gasoline stations were all closed either due to damage, no electricity to power the pumps, and the damage was so severe the fuel trucks could not even get in. At one point we paid $10 a gallon for gas. The station was cited for doing that later, but they will definitely start gouging prices if they have the necessities available.

So it is wise to always be prepared.

When the hurricane warnings start the people run out and stock up on food and water and the shelves are bare. It happens every year, so it is wise to be prepared in advance.

I cannot stress enough that when something of that magnitude occurs you will have thieves and low lives roaming the streets. I know I have said this before, but I brought in an ice chest with ice and water and somebody actually stole it off my front porch. They didn't even ask if I would share, which I would have. They stole the entire thing, and we were left with nothing. There was no sanitary water anywhere. So be prepared to protect yourselves and your supplies. Sad, but true.

Everything in my house was contaminated from flood waters. Most was ruined beyond salvation, and what wasn't had been looted. Jewelry, and things of that nature. When times are tough the wicked come out in droves. Don't ever forget that. They prey on everybody.
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 11:11 am

Thank you everyone for contributing to this thread. I had to really put some stress about this, even though words failed me. But being my friend is in the grain industry he really have been concerned seeing the prices going up.

No, it isn't about doom and gloom, it is about learning from the past, like during the depression for starters. Learn from this, for it will soon come upon us, many who have been through the depression are seeing the same signs. My Mother, for example tells me about it almost daily, the signs are showing up more and more.

Please learn from others that have learned to adapt during the depression how to use Mother Earth which provides for us, when the grocery shelves will be empty. Learn to rely on natures healing's for you won't be able to afford prescription.

There is a book called The Foxfire Book about the Mountain people in North America. I have it at home and shared with my Mother and a lot of it in this book, she has used as a little girl.

Be Safe dear ones,
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 11:28 am

As for the water situation, the website mentioned earlier in this thread sells products (tablets and other things) that you can use to purify water, whether it be from a river or stream or some other source. I think its worth checking into. I think its listed under emergency supplies on the right hand side of the page. Wild Dove, have you checked it out yet? If so, what did you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 11:58 am

MID, I did check out the water filters at aaoobfoods. I am of the "old man mountain" type. If I can carry it on my back, I will. I have always used purifyers (tablets) in all my travels, I have also forgotten to use them, and have had several bouts of amoebic dysentery, which is beyond description when comparing to stomach flu. Its disgusting.

However, like SPRING'S MESSAGES, "WATER, WATER, WATER, the most precious part (keeping it safe from dangerous contaminents).

My part in this discussion isn't what you'd call encouraging, but on the other hand, I, like SPRING have survived a helava lot of natural disasters and survived.....Be well, and continue spreading the word.
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 12:26 pm

i can see that you are all rather like minded on this thread and rather strong in your view, so much so that i thought about not posting. i am not here to change your mind or judge your experiences and what you have learned. i just have something to say.

i guess i just dont see how spirit is assisting you to transcend memories of the past, and step up, which as i would see it, would then enable a new reality to manifest rather than a repeat of what went before.

the earth is part of many rounds and cycles, many of which can be altered thru our spiritual intent. if you were to prepare for the earth's ascension, it would help open the way for that to happen. if you prepare for disaster then you are lending your energies for that to happen.

there is great wisdom in learning from the past, listening to our ancestors, knowing how to live with the earth without the encumbering structure of human civilisation. i am not questioning that.

i feel that once we become aware of the great spirit that we are, how we deal with the world can change. and sometimes the possibilty of what we can do is not what was previously open to us or our ancestors.

i see that natural disasters are not something that humans are simply victims of, not something that is just a part of global warming due to civilisation, it is an opportunity for you to realise in your physical body that you are a part of the great spirit, as is the earth, as are the elements that make up that storm or disaster.

it is a chance for you to realise that your intent, and altruistic motivation can alter events on the earth and in our universe. if there was eva a time to stand your ground and claim the earth as a place of spirit and love, then it is now.

what seems as a huge problem to the human form, can be altered in a blink by spirit. and no, it wasnt raining when noah built the ark, but maybe he was one of the few that were listening, and if more had listened maybe he would neva have had to build it. elk
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 12:54 pm

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what seems as a huge problem to the human form, can be altered in a blink by spirit. and no, it wasnt raining when noah built the ark, but maybe he was one of the few that were listening, and if more had listened maybe he would neva have had to build it. elk

Elk I understand your post and position. The energy we release is the energy we get back. Just as the old physics proposition stated "For every action there is a reaction." But, I really don't believe that any of us here are sending negative energy by being prepared for what has been prophesied and appears to be inevitable. As you say it wasn't raining when Noah built the ark, but he was granted the wisdom, intuition and the gift by God to foresee what was to come.

In the days of Noah, God gave people ample warning that he was going to judge the world. For 120 years, Noah and his family built the ark and told people what was coming. When the time came, God shut the door to the ark—and then it was too late to make preparations.

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the earth is part of many rounds and cycles, many of which can be altered thru our spiritual intent

Our spiritual intent is to be able to help others when the "cycle" or "round" occurs. Our intent is not to bring about physical suffering or destruction. It is clear that everybody is not of like mind, as many of us here are. There is no way to prevent what is coming because there are too many lost souls, and that is why the Spirit gives us the gift of knowing - to prepare for the inevitable and not to have to participate in the suffering.

Sort of like the parable of the Brides, and the oil and the groom. Five Brides had oil for their lamps, and five brides did not have oil. In the end it was the brides that were prepared that were allowed into the groom's chamber, but the unprepared brides were left out.

We know that times are coming where we will have to endure suffering. We can see the signs in the Earth, in the Heavens, in the attitudes and moral decline of those around us.

If we don't use our common sense and our gift of wisdom to prepare for these events we will be left out of the groom's chamber.

Elk I am not disparaging your opinion. I just believe it is highly optimistic to believe that every person on the entire planet is going to change their way of thinking. Evidence suggests otherwise. Moral decline, debauchery, evil acts, wars, pestilence, and every unimaginable sorrow is showing signs and we are given the resources to see and to hear, and to prepare. We are not bringing disaster upon the earth, but preparing to carry on, or for others to carry on after the purging.
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 1:00 pm

My Dearest Elk;

I fully understand what you are saying here, and I have no qualms or wish to "debunk" what you are saying. For You are correct, to follow what the spirit tells you.

Rest assure, when I posted this subject, I, too am following what Spirit is telling me, and Spirit is telling me to share this info for others that also hear a similar message. Even Noah was telling others about it and they scoffed at him and laughed at him.

We all must follow what Spirit tells us.

God Bless You Elk,
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 1:20 pm

I've always been able to see both sides of a situation and I say you are all correct. There's no harm in being prepared, perhaps you can be prepared while visualizing that you WON'T need it? Did that come out right? I think you know what I mean. More and more people are "coming around" everyday BECAUSE of all the natural disasters and moral debauchery etc.. Like they say in the 12 step programs, you have to hit YOUR rock bottom before you can truly change. A LOT of people are hitting their rock bottom and realizing that they way they have been doing things all these years doesn't work anymore. According to various channelings, (I'm not generally big on channeled info. I take what I like and leave the rest) we have already avoided a lot of natural disasters because so many people have changed and "woken up". I'm not saying there won't be anymore, but, perhaps the ones that are coming won't be as bad as predicted hundreds of years ago. Even Karen said as much in one of her energy alerts a short tme ago. I'm taking the middle ground myself, I'm stocking up some, but, I'm not going overboard or getting to caught up in it. Please Spring, Little Fire and Wild Dove, don't get me wrong, I'm not insinuating that any of you are, I'm mearly stating my position.
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 1:24 pm

As for stocking up on grains etc. that just makes sense, especially since we know that there already are shortages and prices are going through the roof. Theres my other 2 cents, I now have 4 cents in this thread. flower
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As for stocking up on grains etc. that just makes sense, especially since we know that there already are shortages and prices are going through the roof. Theres my other 2 cents, I now have 4 cents in this thread. flower

Well MID there you go - signs all around us warning and telling us to prepare. It is not that we want these things, or unintentionally by our actions are bringing these events upon ourselves. We are not. But we do have insight and wisdom to see and hear and therefore prepare.

I do not want to have to depend on the government or others if another catastrophic event occurs. It is not a good situation to find yourself in. I was shown that the hard way. It was a lesson that I had to learn.

I fervently and naively thought that a few with prayers and good intentions would divert anything of that nature. I found out - through a lesson that was meant for me to experience not to get in that situation ever again. Prayers are powerful, and my prayers got me through, but there are those who are still - to this day - suffering from the effects of that storm. They will never recover. I have fully recovered and learned some valuable lessons. Material things mean little to me now, and I know that survival means having the knowledge, and the supplies ready.

God gave us reasoning, common sense, and the ability to see if we have not closed our eyes and ears to the warnings. We should use these gifts.
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 2:01 pm

AND FINALLY (for me-on this subject): DON'T FORGET THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET, THOUSANDS OF SEARCH ENGINES, LOTS OF PEOPLE MAY STUMBLE ON TO THIS WEBSITE AND WE'LL NEVER KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE, hoping ALL of the information posted finds its rightful place.

I believe as I type, that this is what I am supposed to be doing. I have had to examine my own "diarrhea of my mind" and my "desire to be heard". I examined that so many times, I STOPPED SHARING my thoughts. NOT ANY MORE!!!! TAKE any, all, or none of it....matters little to me, now.....
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 2:09 pm

Wild Dove wrote:
AND FINALLY (for me-on this subject): DON'T FORGET THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET, THOUSANDS OF SEARCH ENGINES, LOTS OF PEOPLE MAY STUMBLE ON TO THIS WEBSITE AND WE'LL NEVER KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE, hoping ALL of the information posted finds its rightful place.

I believe as I type, that this is what I am supposed to be doing. I have had to examine my own "diarrhea of my mind" and my "desire to be heard". I examined that so many times, I STOPPED SHARING my thoughts. NOT ANY MORE!!!! TAKE any, all, or none of it....matters little to me, now.....

Wild Dove you were meant to share. Your thoughts, your lessons, your messages and words of inspiration are a gift for us all. You are right, somebody may just lurk here and take a ray of hope away with them. I know it happens. I have done it myself by reading other places. Things that touched my heart, things that meant a lot to me, and things that seemed to be written for me and only me.

Elk I believe you are so pure of heart that your faith in mankind is infinite. We can change things, but others have to be of like mind, and there are many without faith - I mean none - and many lost souls. They are wandering and ripe for the picking. You have a kind and marvelous spirit, but many are not like you. There are wicked and evil souls wandering this earth today.
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 2:19 pm

PS: I often "quote" a passage that touched my heartmind and sent it to others. Twohawk's Nest isn't my only "internet connection". I BELIEVE IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THOSE WHO NETWORK INFO OF PERTINANCE AND EITHER GIVE LINK, OR ADD COMMENT IN A POSITIVE WAY MUST KEEP ON DOING THIS.

WE BUY INTO THE NEGATIVE BY NOT SEARCHING FOR RESOLVE. I posted earlier on another thread, Chief Joseph's words: "It doesn't take many words to tell the truth".........

In many ways (many people's way of processing information) we are saying the same thing, but this is much different than repeating the same (which IS the diarrehea I speak of---only spreads the negativity).

We all must be careful of overload on any subject. This thread "STOCK UP" maybe could be archived into Preparedness......?
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..................WE BUY INTO THE NEGATIVE BY NOT SEARCHING FOR RESOLVE. I posted earlier on another thread, Chief Joseph's words: "It doesn't take many words to tell the truth".........

We all must be careful of overload on any subject. This thread "STOCK UP" maybe could be archived into Preparedness......?

Wild Dove I post what I feel drawn to post, and try not to keep posting information that is tired and overloaded on other sites. Thus perpetuating the negative. I know exactly what you are saying. I have come across many articles today that grabbed my attention and I felt the need to post.

Sometimes I wonder if this whole Internet business wasn't a horrible mistake. LOL

I believe LittleFire was led to post this "Stock Up" topic in the General Discussion by the Spirit. Some people avoid the preparedness threads out of a sense of overload, and rehashing the obvious. It was a message that weighed heavily on her and she was shown that it would be received by many in the general discussion.

As you can see it has elicited many informative and interesting replies, so I am going to leave it right here.

Wild Dove I fully respect your opinion and your insight as I do each person on this forum.

Each of us has our little gift to contribute, which coalesces into the big picture.
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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 2:48 pm

Thanks for the insight. I respect everybody's imput here. It's why I spend so much time here....I go back and forth from thread to thread, not trying to "pick" on anything (except when link/typo error isn't working).

I believe you are right about the word/thread PREPAREDNESS. It brings to mind a discussion I have with many of my friends, when wordage gets too heavy. I remind people that words are like road maps, they should LEAD TO the intended destination. BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT IS THAT THEY LEAD YOU TO SOMEWHERE (if you are stuck in your own destination/place in the discussion at hand).

The second point: People read maps in different ways, for different reasons. Some for getting there faster (shortcuts) and some for choosing the scenic route......I choose the latter........ :bump:
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I remind people that words are like road maps, they should LEAD TO the intended destination. BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT IS THAT THEY LEAD YOU TO SOMEWHERE....

......The second point: People read maps in different ways, for different reasons. Some for getting there faster (shortcuts) and some for choosing the scenic route......I choose the latter........

I knew you would understand. I am like you. I prefer the scenic route. The interstate is too fast and furious for me, so I like to meander down the back roads which has led to some very enlightening and interesting encounters. However I have detoured off on some dead ends that led to nowhere! Lessons, lessons, lessons.........

Slow down up there. I need to see what it is I shall see!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 3:00 pm

I never meant to have this thread turn into anything but out of unconditional love to share and help others by the message I received. It was not part of preparedness board.

I'm sorry others might find it wrong, and I offer my deepest apology if this has offended anyone. Again, it was shared by unconditional love only...

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PostSubject: Re: Stock Up!!!!   Stock Up!!!! - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 29, 2008 3:18 pm

LITTLEFIRE, I suggested preparedness thread simply about at some point, all the actual facts/info/useful stuff might simply be a fact sheet there. I was never offended by anything, including the length of the thread, or the content. I am sure ELK wasn't in the least offended either!

Everything I read here is helpful, and especially your oracular, very obviously clear and unconditional posts, even if you don't mention Spirit told you to. I really do trust you, not because I also post the same way, but because I get both goosebumps and warm feeling whenever I read your posts. KEEP ON, GIRL!!!!!!
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You guys are all wonderful. We compliment each other. Now no hurt feelings! I love this discourse. We are all so sensitive. But, I love that we can disagree without malice.

Now put em up!!


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Thank you both Wild Dove and Spring, and to each and everyone here at Two Hawk's. I am blessed to have the opportunity in sharing and meeting you all...

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i think maybe a gif21 group hug would be great. anyone care for some of the only emergency supplies i keep? :choco:
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