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PostSubject: increase gas mileage   Fri May 09, 2008 12:30 pm

I recently ran across these two websites. I thought some of you would be interested. One is called Ethos, its a gas additive. I don't know the web address, google Ethos gas additive. The other is a contraption you make and attach to your engine, it sounds like it could be a real money maker, all you do is buy the plans and if you want to sell it to others its okay. The web address is www.water4fuel.com.
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PostSubject: Re: increase gas mileage   Fri May 16, 2008 9:32 pm

I was on msnbc,com today and somehow randomly accidentally clicked on an advertisement on the page that was like this, and not even quite as big:

Sick Of High Gas Prices?
$49 2 Double Your Gas Mileage.
Convert Car To Water/Gas Hybrid
www.RunYourCarWithWater.com

Anyway, I took it as a sign of some sort, was going to post it on some boards and found this thread here first before I did. I think I'm going to investigate this a bit. I think it would be a bit harder on the battery, but that is what the alternator is for isn't it?, plus, I don't have tv's, dvd's, mega bass sound systems, or anything fancy like some people insist. You'd just think this would be out there more if it didn't have a flaw of some sort... I don't get it, maybe because it really isn't being marketed because nobody's making much profit off of it?

This is reportedly a scam and a big urban legend, so I wouldn't try this on any fancy car
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PostSubject: Re: increase gas mileage   Sat May 17, 2008 8:23 am

Asor I checked out the link. If this is legitimate then I think we should all invest and do this, but I am going to let somebody else do it first with an old clunker. LOL

Since I am not mechanically inclined I am not going to try working on my vehicle yet. It states that it is reversible, but I afraid to try it.

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PostSubject: Re: increase gas mileage   Thu May 22, 2008 12:58 pm

Get 50 mpg -- in your own car

You too can wring much more out of every gallon of gas, even if you don't go to the crazy lengths of so-called hypermilers. Here are basic steps anyone can take to get real savings.
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By Philipp Harper

Wayne Gerdes is the Lance Armstrong of gas mileage.

In 2006, at the Honda Insight Marathon in Tonkawa, Okla., using driving tactics both mundane and exotic, Gerdes and his teammates went 2,254 miles on a single 13.7-gallon tank of gas. That's an average of 165 miles per gallon for a vehicle with an EPA rating of 60 city/66 highway. During one of Gerdes' runs on the 40-mile course, mpg peaked at 200.

The Chicago resident is the acknowledged king of the hypermilers.

Hypermiling, if you don't know, is the art of wringing every last ounce of fuel efficiency out of a car. It had its genesis in some Internet chat rooms and bulletin boards frequented by owners of hybrid vehicles. Soon, boys being boys -- and generally it's men who are involved -- competitions were held, gauntlets were thrown and some astounding figures were being posted. (You can get a taste for the hypermiling life at GasSavers.org or Gerdes' own Web site, CleanMPG.com.)
Going the extra mile
Regulars on the sites report mileage of 60 mpg, 70 mpg, even 80 mpg over extended periods. Of course, the average commuter can't even begin to approach these levels of fuel economy. Most of us wouldn't want to try.

Many of the techniques embraced by hypermilers are uncomfortable, illegal or downright dangerous. Some block off their car's grille to improve aerodynamics; some shut their engines off while coasting. They'll remove side mirrors to reduce drag, remove a power steering pump or buy a new set of tires in hopes of improved coasting.

But by applying common sense and some of hypermiling's simpler techniques, it is possible to improve significantly the fuel efficiency of any vehicle. Hypermilers report daily mileage -- even in bone-stock cars such as a Honda Civic, Ford Escort or Toyota Yaris -- well into the 40s.
Little things mean a lot
In fact, Gerdes says, following just the basics, like parking so that you can pull forward rather than wasting gas backing up, will improve own your mileage 25%. This might even be a bit of an understatement.

At its fueleconomy.gov Web site, the U.S. Department of Energy says that by following the speed limit and swearing off aggressive driving (rapid acceleration and deceleration), drivers can improve mpg by anywhere from 12% to 55%. An additional 19% improvement can be achieved, it is claimed, merely by keeping a car properly maintained.

Editors at Edmunds.com achieved similar results when they put to the test some widely accepted driving tips. On average, fuel efficiency improved 12% when speed limits were followed, 31% when aggressive driving tactics were avoided and an additional 7% when cruise control was used. Limiting the time spent idling also led to improvements of up to 19%.


Not only is significantly improved fuel efficiency achievable, it's easily achievable. Hypermiling builds on these relatively simple concepts.

Gerdes proved this recently when he put a visitor behind the wheel and talked him through a 30-mile trip to Chicago's O'Hare International Airport. The driver, previously untutored in the ways of hypermiling, averaged 51.2 mpg in Gerdes' 2005 Honda Accord, exceeding the EPA's highway rating for the vehicle by more than 50%.


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PostSubject: Re: increase gas mileage   Thu May 22, 2008 1:00 pm

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Rules of the road
You can achieve similar results by following these nine commandments of hypermiling. "It's not brain science," Gerdes says.

* Brake sparingly. Coast up to red lights instead of braking (though you might want to watch your rearview mirror). Timed correctly, you'll hit the green while still moving forward and expend less fuel accelerating again. A commuter should be able to pick up the timing sequence of lights along a route in three to four days, Gerdes asserts.
* To idle is to sin. Cars of recent vintage have fuel-injection systems that make starting an engine more efficient than idling. So if you're going to be at a standstill for 10 seconds or more, cut off the engine. And if the drive-through line at McDonald's is a long one, park and buy your food inside.
* Speed kills. "My Honda Accord, with good tire pressure and synthetic oil (see below), driven at 50 to 55 miles per hour, will get an average of 50 miles per gallon. It's EPA rated at 24/34." So just follow the speed limit, or go at a slightly slower speed. To make himself and his slower speed conspicuous to faster drivers behind, Gerdes "ridge rides," meaning he keeps his right tires on the white line that defines the far right side of the slow lane.
* Avoid the big chill. Today's cars can't kick into their most efficient mode -- called "closed-loop operation" -- until the engine is sufficiently warm. There are ways to speed the process even if you don't want to invest in an engine-block heater. If you're on a round of errands, for example, always go the farthest destination first to bring up the engine temperature. If you make a series of short trips, the engine stays cold and never achieves maximum efficiency.
* Beware of drag. Car racks and other automotive appendages -- even those flags honoring favorite sports teams -- reduce mpg by creating drag. The problem gets worse with speed. "Think of trying to stand up in a 75 mph hurricane," Gerdes says. So if there's something that can be taken off the car without compromising its operation or aesthetics, get rid of it. Driving with open windows is generally held to be better than using the air conditioning, but closed windows and no A/C are best.
* Lose the weight. For every 30 pounds of extra weight your vehicle carries, mpg decreases by anywhere from one-tenth to one-hundredth of a percent. That may not seem like much, but mile and mile it adds up. Jettison what's not essential. If it's summer and your trunk still contains a bag of sand to help you negotiate icy, winter roads, get rid of it.
* Pay attention to load. When you're driving up a hill, keep a steady load on the engine. Gerdes recommends accelerating to a target speed and then locking your foot in position so the gas pedal is held steady. That will keep gas consumption at a constant level. Maintaining a constant speed, on the other hand, requires increasing the fuel burn rate as the hill is climbed. Do that and a vehicle that registers 40 mpg on a level road can see fuel efficiency decline to as low as 15 mpg, Gerdes says.
* Be not a hare. Jackrabbit starts might enable you to win the race to the next traffic light, but they're murder on fuel economy. Gerdes explains that the best mpg is had at relatively low rpm levels. It may seem like you're crawling if you try to accelerate at 1,900 rpm, he says, "but if there's nobody behind you, what's the point of going faster? You're just throwing fuel away." And if you let the other guy beat you to the next light, his presence might just cause it to change to green, enabling you to keep going without braking.
* Set up for success. How a car is set up, particularly in the areas of tire pressure and engine lubrication, is critical. Gerdes recommends inflating tires to their maximum allowable pressure, a specification you'll find printed on the outside of the tire. Higher pressure means less rolling resistance, allowing you to coast a greater distance. As for synthetic oil, it breaks down more slowly than regular oil and thus promotes efficient operation of the engine for a longer period.

Follow these basics and you'll get your 25% increase in mpg. You can boost it even further if you're willing to try a couple of more-involved tactics, such as avoiding left turns (and the braking that goes with them). Also, if you select parking spaces that allow you to leave by moving forward, you don't waste fuel and motion backing up.
Some techniques to avoid
Fuel economy improves most drastically when hypermiling techniques are wed with highway driving. Simply by driving at or slightly below the speed limit while faster vehicles pass and pull you along in their wakes can result in mpg 50% higher than the EPA ratings. This passive drafting is entirely legal, as is a practice called "distant drafting," where the goal is to stay 10 or more car lengths behind a tractor-trailer.

More problematic, not to mention less legal, is the "close-in drafting" that involves staying as little as three-quarters of a car length behind the lead vehicle (usually an 18-wheeler). Though the resulting fuel economy numbers are "stupid high," Gerdes says, "this is like NASCAR and I would not recommend it to anybody."


That warning is seconded by Dennis Hallion, chairman of the National Troopers Coalition. A sergeant detective in the New Jersey State Police, Hallion says while he is all for saving fuel -- careful trip planning, reducing the vehicle weight and hewing to speed limits are among the tactics he advocates -- if he saw someone practicing close-in drafting, he would pull them over for reckless driving.

Also worthy of a ticket is another technique Gerdes admits using but does not recommend: taking curves -- a highway exit ramp, say -- at up to twice the posted speed to maintain as much momentum as possible. That, too, would cause a trooper to turn on his flashing lights, Hallion says, adding that even ridge riding is questionable as it might jeopardize motorists who have stopped on the shoulder of the road.

So, if you don't want to risk a fine or worse, stick to hypermiling's basics and avoid its riskiest maneuvers. If you work at it, you'll dramatically improve fuel economy.

"You have to put all the pieces together and stay on top of them," Gerdes says. "If you don't, you're not going to see improved fuel economy. You're not going to get positive feedback."

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PostSubject: Re: increase gas mileage   Thu May 22, 2008 2:21 pm

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You can boost it even further if you're willing to try a couple of more-involved tactics, such as avoiding left turns (and the braking that goes with them).

LOL! I plan out all my trips according to the fewest left turns. My kids make fun of me for it!

Thanks for posting this here, MID. I'm going to start trying a few of these. If only I can get my sweetheart to start coasting TO red lights instead of THRU them....lol...
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PostSubject: Re: increase gas mileage   Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:55 pm

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Run Your Car On Water Today: STAN MEYER KILLED Pt 1 and 2
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h75_TGiwg78
Stan Meyer invented a hydrogen fuel cell that converts any automobile to run on tap water. This conversion kit now made by HydroStar sells for $1500. Stan Meyer never saw his invention reach fruition as he was killed shortly after this documentary was made. DEMAND THIS TECHNOLOGY AND OTHERS LIKE IT FROM YOUR LOCAL POLITICIANS. THIS IS REAL. OBTAINABLE, and CHEAP OIL ALTERNATIVES. DEMAND ANSWERS, QUESTION. QUESTION, QUESTION.

Water powered car
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In 1996, Stan Meyer gave oral testimony before the court demonstrating the WFC Fuel Cell "Mode of Operability" by using the Voltage Intensifier Circuit (VIC) to produce voltage of opposite polarity to separate and disassociate the water molecule into its component gases, hydrogen & oxygen. MUCH more on this in "A New Way to Approach an Old Problem" below.

Man invents car that runs on water
http://www.fastcar.co.uk/04570735436164115979/man-invents-car-that-runs-on-water.html
An inventor in Florida, USA has invented a car that runs on water, yes seriously!

Solar powered electric car (14 min 10 sec video)
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/348.html
Not a dream, it works.

Solar-Powered 1975 VW (1 min 34 sec)
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PostSubject: Re: increase gas mileage   Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:00 pm

Hi MID,
Stanleys car was never about running it on water, it ran on hydrygen. Stanley was able to come up with a cheap economic method of extracting Hydrygen from water's compositiopn is two parts hydrygen and one part water. He did see his invention to fruition as he is shown driving his vw converted vehicle. He was killed before he was to make his long distance trip. His invention was patented and they only give patents for something that worked. Some of your vehicles today are hydrygen hybreds and I wonder where the big manufactures got this technology from, Hmmm. Well if you go to utube and do a search, you will see many that have taken his basic principles, and have been able to improve on them. I have been tracking these test for some time.
Within the next five years, the big name heating and air companies will be bringing out the hydrygen furnace. I have a small hydrygen cell in the garage that I made using Stanley's concept and design and am able to produce hydrygen at under 12 volts with only a 2 amp draw of current. Anyone can make these now and I plan to have my garden tractor running on hydrygen by next summer.
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PostSubject: Re: increase gas mileage   Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:06 am

Another good way to save on fuel, is car pooling.... though, I'm the only one from my work that lives out in the middle of nowhere, so that is not helpful for me. But, most of what has been said here thanks to MID is true enough...
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